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Jetnova16's Ships & Stations Request...

Post by jetnova16 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:30 pm

***Attention Forum Moderators - If you want to move this to the Ship Requests Thread, you already have my permission to do so. I only started the thread this way for I wasn't sure if it would really fit that thread. If you think it does, please move it.***

Ok, given my unique ideas for starships and stations and my unfamiliarity with Milkshape 3D and the constant errors with the SOD files in my MS3D install and the ships and stations I create not using their weapons and their hardpoints disappearing after the model is saved as a SOD and the same thing happening when I edit the textures to a model then re-converting it to SOD to use in Star Trek Armada II, I have come to the Armada II Community with a small yet major Starship and Starbases Mods requests.

I hope that there are others in the Armada II Community that would like to see these ships and stations for the game as well and I hope that others would be willing to make them, if they are, I happen to have different Special Weapon Ideas for some of them that might be of interest as well.

***Alternate Reality Starships and Stations***
1) An Alternate Reality Excelsior-class (Picture linked from Jetfreka's link on the Alternate Reality Ships page on A2Files throuhg his link. - Art Work is his.)
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/ ... k74656.png
(edit: image was too large and was breaking the table.)

2. An Alternate Reality Soyuz-class
3. A Klingon Warbird - as seen in the Kobayashi Maru Test in Star Trek 2009.
4. An Alternate Reality Soveriegn-class (representation - what it could possibly look like)
5. Alternate Reality Ulysses-class Dreadnought
6. An Alternate Reality Proxima-class (or Proxima Refit)

***Prime Reality - Starships and Stations***
1. Watch Tower-class (Starbase 47) Vanguard
2. Romulan Enterprise Era Starbase
3. A Cardassian-Dominion-Jem'Hadar-Breen Hybrid Starship
4. Vesta-class Explorer
5. Enterprise Era Romulan Warships
6. Enterprise Era Coalition Starships that could have fought in the Earth-Romulan War
7. Enterprise Era Romulan Shipyard

***Non-Star Trek Related - StarGate***
1. Ancients - Full Race
2. Wraith - Full Race
3. Replicators - Combined Milky Way & Pegusas Varriants
4. Tau'ri Full Race - Combined With The Ancients - If possible
5. Asgard Full Race
6. Ori Full Race
7. Lucian Alliance Full Race
8. Goa'uld Full Race - (additions for Goa'uld Add-on)
9. Midway Station (as a Tau'ri Station that after being built allows for Ancients' and Daedalus-class Tau'ri Ships and Stations

Ok, for the ships and stations that I requested that are for the Alternate Reality and the Prime Reality's Federation and other races of Star Trek, they are well placed for my Star Trek Mod. They are though ships and stations that I feel others in the Armada II Community might just end up liking too. Especially if they are created by someone out there because then I can release the unique Special Weapon Ideas that I have for many of these Alterante Reality Starship Ideas.

For the StarGate Ships, Stations and Races, these will be incorporated into a New (Actually the First and possibly )NLY) StarGate Total Conversion For Armada II. Those that are interested in creating the races will (unless they want to release their work seperately and make a Compilation Full Race Mod allowing others to put together their own Total Conversion for their personal Use) will be (if they wish) part of a Modding Team that I am looking to put together for Creating the First ever StarGate Total Conversion Mod for Armada II - StarGate Armada!

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Post by pepperman » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:21 pm

Pepperman chuckles deeply as he reads jetnova's request. Nothing wrong with having a sense of humor mate but the chances of your request being realized are slim and none. Unless you do these yourself, there just isn't enough modellers nor interest left in Armada for this to happen. If you are truly serious then I would strongly recommend you practice and practice until you become very proficient with Milkshape and Paitshop Pro.

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Post by jetnova16 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:19 pm

pepperman wrote:Pepperman chuckles deeply as he reads jetnova's request. Nothing wrong with having a sense of humor mate but the chances of your request being realized are slim and none. Unless you do these yourself, there just isn't enough modellers nor interest left in Armada for this to happen. If you are truly serious then I would strongly recommend you practice and practice until you become very proficient with Milkshape and Paitshop Pro.
I am sorry to say that I can't afford to purchase those programs right now and MS3D for me doesn't want to work right. SOD files don't get created right, hardpoints don't stay on the models and following all the tutorials that I have gotten my hands on show that I have done every thing right but there is a corruption in my MS3D program and the exporter files to even create any models.

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Post by MrVulcan » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:06 pm

Why don't you post a tech help request for ms3d. You can try re-installing it.

Indeed as pepperman mentioned, your best bet it to try modelling these yourself. Its not that people don't want to be helpful, or provide support to each other in the community; its just that most of the people that are still around just don't have the time to do modding for others. Most of it happens for personal pleasure :P

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Post by jetnova16 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:16 pm

MrVulcan wrote:Why don't you post a tech help request for ms3d. You can try re-installing it.

Indeed as pepperman mentioned, your best bet it to try modelling these yourself. Its not that people don't want to be helpful, or provide support to each other in the community; its just that most of the people that are still around just don't have the time to do modding for others. Most of it happens for personal pleasure :P
I have tried re-installing MS3D and even a new installation, the problem is still there. It is a Vista error it seems and it causes my computer to actually start to overheat more than it does, for a Toshiba. Because of this I can't create any models, I have tried multiple times to try and fix the problem it just hasn't happened.

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Post by jetnova16 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:05 am

I found a few other ships and possibly some stations that I would eventually want for my Star Trek Armada II game and the good news is they are already created and part of a mod, I just want to know when that mod will be released and where I can find it. The mod is called Star Trek Armada II Yesteryears and I would totally love to get a hold of its creator and all the ships for the Gorn (they will be able to fix up and give my Gorn Fleet better ships) and of course fix up my Terran Empire-Klingon Cardassian Alliance Race since this mod also has the Terrans too.

Here is the Romulan ship that I would love to get right now though and I can't wait to see her in action in my game :). Man, I love how this ship looks and can believe that she is very powerful, or at least I know I can make her powerful for a TMP Dreadnought!

<img src="http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mod ... /57898.jpg" alt="Romulan Dreadnaught" width="560">

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Post by pepperman » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:03 pm

You might also try posting Milkshape 3D specific question over at their forum and see if anyone has any advice. Don't expect much or any help on the SOD exporters as their creators have been gone from the scene for a long time.

http://www.chumba.ch/chumbalum-soft/forum/

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Post by jetnova16 » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:20 pm

First thank you for the link to the MS3D Forums. I think it might eventually be a help.

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Now I did post this picture in another thread that I started for my Star Trek Armada II Spanning The Generations Mod, but I will just post it here to make the question easier to ask and for who decides to read this thread instead of the other one.

By any chance, where can I find the ships that I have circled as mods for Star Trek Armada II? I know on the site for the Starfleet Museum there was a link to see 3D models of the ships and I think that the ones that I have circled were among the ones that I looked at in 3D. I was just wondering if they are available for Armada II because they didn't come with the Starfleet Museum Mod that was based on the Romulan War, thus only has the Romulan and the Federation for races. The circled ships are for the Federation and I would really love to add them to the Federation side for that extra race if at all possible. Thank you for you help and information in finding them if they do exist. If they don't, then I'll keep looking for them.
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Post by pepperman » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:06 pm

Have you investigated other games like Star Fleet Command to see if that community might have made them...you'd have to convert them of course.

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Post by jetnova16 » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:32 pm

pepperman wrote:Have you investigated other games like Star Fleet Command to see if that community might have made them...you'd have to convert them of course.
I haven't looked or even investigated since I am only looking for Armada II and sometimes Armada I mods.

Anyways:
1) I have never heard of a game called Starfleet Command, nor do I know what website to look up for it.
2) Any ways, it would be a waste of my time to do so and then to find out they have what I am looking for because I do not know how to convert the models to be used for Star Trek Armada II.

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Any ways, the logical course of action that should have been done by the creator of the Starfleet Museum Romulan War Mod that featured these ships would have been to include all of these ships instead of for the Federation creating doubles of each ship, because the UES (United Earth Government) and the Federation have their own versions of these ships all in the same mod. Including all Pre-TOS Ships by Masao Okazaki. Well of course that is my opinion though.

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Post by MajorPayne » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:20 pm

In that case your highly unlikely to find ANY of those your looking for. Now if you actually learnt to make and convert these models then you wouldn't have to rely so much on the hope thats others will be able to help, which by the looks of this forum is practically non-existant, and just because you get a small amount of help elsewhere doesn't mean you'll get it on other sites/forums.

The simple fact is that unless your willing to entertain these suggestions then your likely to get nowhere.

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Post by Zman » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:09 pm

jetnova16 wrote:
pepperman wrote:1) I have never heard of a game called Starfleet Command, nor do I know what website to look up for it.
I find that really hard to believe. Four games in as many years(99-02) kinda impossible not to of heard on one of them. They were very popular as of only like three years ago then the player base really started disappearing though dynaverse is where most are these days. You could even buy EaW and OP from them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek: ... et_Command
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek: ... res_at_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek: ... on_Pirates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek: ... ommand_III
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Post by jetnova16 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:56 pm

MajorPayne wrote:In that case your highly unlikely to find ANY of those your looking for. Now if you actually learnt to make and convert these models then you wouldn't have to rely so much on the hope thats others will be able to help, which by the looks of this forum is practically non-existant, and just because you get a small amount of help elsewhere doesn't mean you'll get it on other sites/forums.

The simple fact is that unless your willing to entertain these suggestions then your likely to get nowhere.
I am willing to try suggestions if:
1) I could afford the programs needed to actually complete them.
2) If the programs would work on my tempormental, overheating, likes to freeze, shutdown randomly, give me a blue screen error, possible motherboard or processor going bad - Toshiba laptop.
3) If someone would give me links to the possible mods that I need, at least to sites that have mods for these unknown games.

Lastly, please reput the ship picture with the circles in my post for bug reports and problems with the Spanning The Generations Mod, it is needed there for I am planning on using it for referencing ships that have problem. That way I can quickly reference the name of the ship, and any ways I have my reasons for why it was there and those reasons haven't been met yet.
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jetnova16 wrote:1) I have never heard of a game called Starfleet Command, nor do I know what website to look up for it.
I find that really hard to believe. Four games in as many years(99-02) kinda impossible not to of heard on one of them. They were very popular as of only like three years ago then the player base really started disappearing though dynaverse is where most are these days. You could even buy EaW and OP from them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek: ... et_Command
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek: ... res_at_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek: ... on_Pirates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek: ... ommand_III

I really have never heard of Starfleet Command, except for Starfleet Command in Star Trek as in on TV. Never have I heard of the game. In fact, I never heard of Star Trek Armada I or II until I stumbled across the game being sold on E-Bay and I bought back in 2007. Then when checking for the patches (if there was any) I stumbled across www.armada2files.com and then here at www.armadafleetcommand.com, then MSFC, and then Fleet Ops website and finally MMM. Everything for Star Trek games I heard of through owning Armada II and coming to these sites. This though is the first time I have ever even heard of Starfleet Command being a game and I found the file front site but there are no mods for the ships that I want and worse I don't even know what program would be needed to convert them to Armada II, to further that, my MS3D still has issues that are problems as well.

Plus anyways now that I know about it, I can't find any mods for the game that would be of use for my Armada II game or to add to the Starfleet Museum Mod that I have and since I was only able to find a link for it on Armada2files for file front, I don't know where else there would even be any mods and right according to you, it is a Dead game, so why should I even bother? I have downloaded a few ships, none of the ones that I circled were there at all though, but I have them in the hopes of converting them but I know that it will never happen.

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Post by pepperman » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:57 pm

Hint #1: Google is a powerful search engine.

Hint #2: Many of the model you find in Armanda I and 2 have come from other games. Folks like yourself have taken a liking to them and converted them (after permissions of course).

Hint #3: Milkshape, a graphics program and a little hard work is all it takes to convert them.

Hint #4: The shapes of the ones you circled would be great for beginerr modelling...why not give them a try.

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Post by jetnova16 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:35 pm

pepperman wrote:Hint #1: Google is a powerful search engine.

Hint #2: Many of the model you find in Armanda I and 2 have come from other games. Folks like yourself have taken a liking to them and converted them (after permissions of course).

Hint #3: Milkshape, a graphics program and a little hard work is all it takes to convert them.

Hint #4: The shapes of the ones you circled would be great for beginerr modelling...why not give them a try.
1) I have googled them, nothing has come up.
2) Why would I need permission to convert them for my own personal use?
3) My Milkshape 3D doesn't work well enough at all and all different versions that I have tried have given me the same problems. It isn't me or my MS3D it seems, but the computer.
4) I can't give them a try for the same reason as #3 plus also, everytime I design my own models, they don't look like ships or anyhting that would make a nice starship.

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