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by Iscaran
Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:51 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

Ah - I misled you. I just posted values to visualize what I thought as there.
I'll look up exact values next time - so perhaps forget the example I constructed here (EDIT: regarding the minor race ships).
by Iscaran
Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

Update - just a few turns today however: New Game Iscaran (Research Progress will be edited here) 14Sep Version - patched to 15Sep Version on Turn 16. Settings: Klingon Empire, Huge, Irregular, Medium, Medium, Early, Some, Canon, Slow, Default, No, No * Marked Researched by Surveyors ONLY. Turn 18 -...
by Iscaran
Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

Should we make survey ships require *all* TLs to be one level higher? Like survey 1 requiring all fields at TL2, and so on. Dont know. At the moment probably best to keep it as is. I think adjusting research speed globally is more important then to switch around TL-Prerequisites based on a single p...
by Iscaran
Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

I think IF the surveyors give a PER ROUND bonus it is WAY too high as it is now. (its basically 2x the effect of a single university building per ship, so early in the game !) You can easily produce 3 surveyors in the first 50 turns and put them on 3 anomalies and replace 6 or even more research bui...
by Iscaran
Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

New Game Iscaran (Research Progress will be edited here) 14Sep Version - patched to 15Sep Version on Turn 16. Settings: Klingon Empire, Huge, Irregular, Medium, Medium, Early, Some, Canon, Slow, Default, No, No * Marked Researched by Surveyors ONLY. Turn 18 - Computers 2 Turn 25 - Biotech 2 Turn 30 ...
by Iscaran
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

OK. So I patched up to the 15sep version in turn 16 of the game...shouldnt have too much impact on research progress I hope :-)...will report research times as they come in now.
by Iscaran
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:14 am
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

Not sure what you mean ? I used the Sep14 Version from your download site: https://bitbucket.org/mstrobel/supremacy/downloads/
I thought it was the one with the changes to research ? Should I update with this package additionally ?
by Iscaran
Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:38 am
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

New Game Iscaran (Research Progress will be edited here) 14Sep Version - patched to 15Sep Version on Turn 16.
Settings: Klingon Empire, Huge, Irregular, Medium, Medium, Early, Some, Canon, Slow, Default, No, No
by Iscaran
Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:33 am
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

It's the exact same ship, why wouldn't it? Yes - I agree. I also dont think that the build times should change much in between Small -> Huge. However I do Think that research speed needs to be adjusted to "number of available planets" or something like that. Or roughly to "available ...
by Iscaran
Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:16 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: Supremacy new release
Replies: 2823
Views: 832066

Re: Supremacy new release

There seems to be an issue with the "save" button of the main game menu and also the "Send" button in diplomacy screen to be sometimes greyed out. And one cannot click it. This was not observed previuosly when I was playing still on Win7 - but now I have switched to Win10 since a...
by Iscaran
Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

Update: For the protocol: global research modifier 0.05. (1/10 of SLOW), Map type Huge, Tech Level at Start EARLY (=TL1 Turn 59 Comp2 Turn 103 Bio2 Turn 128 Weapons2 * Turn 137 Propulsion2 * Turn 138 Energy2 * Turn 144 Weapons 3 * Turn 148 Energy 3 * Turn 149 Propulsion 3 * Turn 160 Construction 2 T...
by Iscaran
Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

Like detecting cloaked ships in combat?


One might be careful about such a feature - cloaking would be rendered pretty "useless" if a TL2 ship can detect it already in combat ?
But depends on how the combat enging might work, some purpose might be found.
by Iscaran
Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:40 am
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

But then, after you survey all anomalies in range, the ships will not have much of a purpose. Dont know how scouts function in Supremacy, yet. But in BOTF they also had a purpose in Combat - as only with a scout present in a fleet you could see which commands the enemy had issued (or was going to i...
by Iscaran
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

Btw. Just for the protocol: global research modifier 0.05. (1/10 of SLOW), Map type Huge, Tech Level at Start EARLY (=TL1) Turn 59 Comp2 Turn 103 Bio2 Turn 128 Weapons2 Turn 137 Propulsion2 Turn 138 Energy2 Turn 144 Weapons 3 Turn 148 Energy 3 Turn 149 Propulsion 3 You see the incredible impact of s...
by Iscaran
Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: Supremacy
Topic: [Balance] Research speed
Replies: 145
Views: 58063

Re: [Balance] Research speed

now that I think about this, Transports should also have some level 2 pre-reqs. Like this you have to focus on exploration and colonization in TL1, and choose which fields to research first to unlock the ship type you want first. I absolutely agree. About the exact Values and scaling factors howeve...

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