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Ultimate Mod (UM5) Only 1 Minor Race Ship

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I was wondering if I could have some help. In Ultimate Mod 5, there is a small bug when encountering minor race ships. When you encounter more than 1 minor race ship (ex: 3 Breen ships), if you choose to fight, it will only show 1 ship. It could be 10 ships and in the tactical combat screen it will only say there is 1 ship. I was wondering if there is a fix to this?

I use UE a lot. I notice if I play UM5 without UE this bug doesn't happen. But when I use UE, even if I am changing something small and has nothing to do with ships, this bug will happen.
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I recall this rare bug in vanilla (most for Vulcan ships IIRC).

But it was never analysed/fixed (AFAIK).
I don't know how many bugs is too many but that point is reached somewhere before however many in BotF is.
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Re: Ultimate Mod (UM5) Only 1 Minor Race Ship

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that issue has nothing to do with editing with UE

A few mod use the Larger Taskforces Patch, the only way this patch would work was to not allow AI to form any taskforces. Lucky this issue in combat only happens with minors and all AI majors ships will enter combat.

the only way to fix this is to remove the Larger Taskforces Patch.
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Strange, Task forces shouldn't matter, it's about all ships in combat sector.

But I think I recall the vanilla Vulcan ships I mentioned above were not merged into a TF but each ship a solo TF.

This would mean the combat code for catching ships in the sector works different for minor race ships?
I don't know how many bugs is too many but that point is reached somewhere before however many in BotF is.
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Re: Ultimate Mod (UM5) Only 1 Minor Race Ship

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Spocks-cuddly-tribble wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:06 pm This would mean the combat code for catching ships in the sector works different for minor race ships?
either that or the taskforce patch changed it

UM5 does have TF patch applied and effect every minor race entering into combat.
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thunderchero wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:14 pmor the taskforce patch changed it
Unlikely, since the same issue occurs in unmodded BotF. :wink:

Another vanilla bug diagnosed thanks to great teamwork. :up:
I don't know how many bugs is too many but that point is reached somewhere before however many in BotF is.
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Re: Ultimate Mod (UM5) Only 1 Minor Race Ship

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Spocks-cuddly-tribble wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:06 pmBut I think I recall the vanilla Vulcan ships I mentioned above were not merged into a TF but each ship a solo TF.

This would mean the combat code for catching ships in the sector works different for minor race ships?
Perhaps not a bug but a feature? To help preserve a human first contact scenario? It could be Vulcan specific? I notice the Vulcans also tend to seek out Earth a lot. I never noticed the "bug" with any of the minors. But if you've found something... :o
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