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Voyager comparison

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I'm not sure we can accuratly use voyager as a benchmark for the strength of delta quadrant ships. As it was undersupplied and took cumulative damage along its seven year journey, it may under-represent the intrepid-class ships.
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Sela wrote:I'm not sure we can accuratly use voyager as a benchmark for the strength of delta quadrant ships. As it was undersupplied and took cumulative damage along its seven year journey, it may under-represent the intrepid-class ships.
Actually at launch she was top of the line. Neurogentic packs, super fast, and excellent manuverability. Any trekkie knows the Intrepid class ship is a science (long range) vessel so of course it's armlaments aren't going to be equal say to a Prometheus class escort cruiser. BUt when the intrepid first started her voyage, they also mention how it had regenerative shielding which at the time was pretty spanky.
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Sela wrote:I'm not sure we can accuratly use voyager as a benchmark for the strength of delta quadrant ships. As it was undersupplied and took cumulative damage along its seven year journey, it may under-represent the intrepid-class ships.
is it just me or does that sound like something geon had written... I might err but it's somehow kinda strange...
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Re: Voyager comparison

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DigitalMaleficus wrote:
Sela wrote:I'm not sure we can accuratly use voyager as a benchmark for the strength of delta quadrant ships. As it was undersupplied and took cumulative damage along its seven year journey, it may under-represent the intrepid-class ships.
Actually at launch she was top of the line. Neurogentic packs, super fast, and excellent manuverability. Any trekkie knows the Intrepid class ship is a science (long range) vessel so of course it's armlaments aren't going to be equal say to a Prometheus class escort cruiser. BUt when the intrepid first started her voyage, they also mention how it had regenerative shielding which at the time was pretty spanky.
Voyager was equipped with gel-packs that improved computer response times and replaced isolinear circuits.
As for it's armaments/stores and whatnot, it WAS launched under-supplied.
Remember that it's initial mission was to capture a lone Maqui raider and return after only 2 weeks. It stands to reason that Voyager's torpedo compliment was 36 because of this, but that it's max torpedo capacity is much higher than that (if I would have to make a guess, I'd say up to 150 - given it's internal volume).
If you also recall, the Defiant (a much smaller ship by comparison) was left with 45 torpedoes after a major battle with the Cardassian/Dominion fleet ('Sacrifice of Angels' was the episode name if I'm not mistaken). I find it a bit idiotic that a small ship as the Defiant would have a higher torpedo count - after already depleting some in a battle - than the Intrepid class which has a much higher internal volume by comparison).
Furthermore, it was mentioned by Voyager's show creators that it's phasers were the same as those on Galaxy class ships (it stands to reason shields would be too). The Nova class - a science vessel which Voyager encountered in it's 6th year, was also equipped with Type-X phasers (per shows creators), though it's shields were not comparable.
If you think that's not possible, then guess again. Voyager was launched in 2371, the Enterprise-D (not the first Galaxy class ship) began her journey in 2364 (that's a 7 year gap).
If you also remember, we started seeing smaller and more powerful ships after the first Borg incursion. The Defiant is the prime example as are the Sovereign, Intrepid and Nova class.

It was also mentioned on-screen that Voyager was built for battle. An off-remark by Tom Paris yes, but I would say it has merit.
When you think about it, Voyager can indeed be a downsized Galaxy class. It has far less amenities/luxuries in comparison and a more compact design which would allow it's offensive/defensive capabilities to match those of larger ships.
If the Defiant was able to match capital ships at the time of her launch when it comes to firepower and shields, I see no reason as to why Voyager wouldn't be built in a similar fashion (especially since it was launched around the same time like the Defiant).

The Prometheus is slightly larger than the Intrepid, and yet, that ship is apparently seen as more powerful (launched 4 years after Voyager, so SF probably made some changes).
I could imagine it being a 'downsized Sovereign class though', which would put it in a category above the Intrepid, but not 'vastly superior'.
Who knows what kinds of upgrades the Intrepid class underwent during Voyager's absence.
And to be frank, Voyager's crew did receive tactical upgrades from SF in data streams after bringing the hyper-subspace transceiver online (which finally allowed them to fight Hirogen ships that were ever so immune to phaser fire before), plus the crew made various improvements to the ship on their own.

Overall, I think SF's technology was underpresented in various Trek shows (given at what we saw it could do in the first place).
Voyager would only have to make a 'pit-stop' in any solar system to manufacture proper things needed by converting either local raw materials into other things, or simply use Solar power to power their transporters and replicators in order to manufacture anything without taxing the warp core.

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