Birth of the Federation installer update discussion

[thunderchero]

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Hi Everyone,

It has been several years since we have had an update of the main multi installer

here are my proposed changes

1. remove hades option
2. restore 512 x 512 original texture (option during install of better textures)
3. retreat/evade crash fix to hobs (option during install)
4. patches such as message errors fixes (option during install)(this needs to be discussed on what ones)
5. gui errors patches (option during install)(this needs to be discussed on what ones)

those are only changes I am thinking about, if you have other suggestion lets discuss them here.

Note: any change should/will not effect mods already released.

thunderchero

[cleverwise]

That all sounds good to me. I think any and all crash patches should be added period.

[thunderchero]

I think any and all crash patches should be added period.

I wish we had more patches to prevent crashes. but that is only one I know of.

I just went 270 turns as klingons with about 100 combats and assaulted 10 systems took out the borg and Calamarain using dxwnd without a single crash.

as for gui patches just the basics
Fed redeploy screen error (fix)

Intel Empire screen - dilth/total systems (fix)

Cardassian Intel/Research display (fix)

Star-names display (fix)

Romulan buy button fix (fix)

Cardassian territory-pic bug (fix) By: Joker

[cleverwise]

I wish we had more patches to prevent crashes. but that is only one I know of.

Okay let me rephase all crashes AND bug fixes should be included period.

I just went 270 turns as klingons with about 100 combats and assaulted 10 systems took out the borg and Calamarain using dxwnd without a single crash.

Sweet!

[thunderchero]

all crashes AND bug fixes should be included period

in past discussions it is a very fine line. one persons bugfix/error, is is the next persons exploit.

[cleverwise]

in past discussions it is a very fine line. one persons bugfix/error, is is the next persons exploit.

I can see that if you are adjusting ship values or something but how in the world can say fixing the Cards system be an exploit? Pffff....

Patch a way! In my system admin podcasts we have the following saying: "Patch your S!" .:. It isn't always shortened either!

[thunderchero]

I was not talking about the gui patches I listed above

most bug fixes effect game play in some way. even message withdrawn fix, was it an error or was it done for a reason by developer.

[cleverwise]

I was not talking about the gui patches I listed above

most bug fixes effect game play in some way. even message withdrawn fix, was it an error or was it done for a reason by developer.

Odds are an error. BotF was clearly rushed and has many bugs. Yes I know no software is prefect or 100% bug free but it is clear there is code for things that was never completed. Buggy sofware BotF is. Sorry wrong sci franchise.

[thunderchero]

Patch a way! In my system admin podcasts we have the following saying: "Patch your S!" .:. It isn't always shortened either!

but this needs to remain the base of all mods current, past and future.

I still have not even setup for any changes yet, but think I will keep it simple

changes to backups (english.res and german.res)
original mpr files only (no hades option)
restore original 512 x 512 textures

options during install (checked to install by default)
Vanilla Evade/Retreat Crash hob fix
Improved textures and build image
GUI fixes already listed above

Any other fixes/bugs/exploits can be added with QD's patcher quickly. and if needed patches can be created quickly also.

any ways we already have Error Correction mod for all the fixes and bugs

[thunderchero]

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Hi Everyone,

I started work on editing the installer yesterday, I made some good progress.

If anyone is interested in testing send me a PM request

here is list of changes from readme so far
note translation to German will be needed at some point

Changes from original CD install 1.0.2

backup files created for clean mod installation (1.0.2)
no-cd patch by QuasarDonkey
jokers final patch (Botf-102-W2K-XP-9x-English-German)
Language folders added (required for no cd)
Full install of Game files
iccvid.dll updated
Mss32.dll updated
Files removed (no longer needed)
00000809.256
clcd16.dll
clcd32.dll
clokspl.exe
colormod.exe
dplayerx.dll
drvmgt.dll
dxreg.dll
mprtest.exe
mpsinfo.exe
Mpsinfo.txt
Mss16.dll
mssb16.tsk
Msvcrt.dll
secdrv.sys
trek.icd



Default playable installation option (1.0.3)

Vanilla Evade/Retreat Crash hob fix
Improved textures and ship build images
gui patches
Fed redeploy screen error (fix)
Intel Empire screen - dilth/total systems (fix)
Cardassian Intel/Research display (fix)
Star-names display (fix)
Romulan buy button fix (fix)
Cardassian territory-pic bug (fix)



Option to add DxWnd folders and desktop shortcuts