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Yea, but as much as it favors their playstyle, I'm not sure they're really that calculistic
Figured out the issue, when minors become members of an empire, they are not considered to be at war anymore because they're not independent anymore. Will look into it.
Good catch! That was due to some code I probably didn't finish because I got distracted for some RL reason. It was making the AI only attack colonies on the edge of its territory - that's the reason the Klingons attacked Setlik instead of other better colonies.
It is population, but the Borg (now) have a population support multiplier of 0.3, with a minimum value of 400 (so that they can have a minimal fleet at game start). Once you reach ~1350 pop you'll see support increase.Warp Core Breach wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:24 pm Started another Borg game. Couple of issues:
1. I can't tell what determines my "income". I can support 400 points of ships, but had 425, so nothing can get built. Since I can't "buy" anything, I ended up scrapping a probe. It clearly isn't population that helps, as I assimilated 4 worlds and still have 400 max. I'm guessing it's shipyards? Had to scrap ships I was building and now waiting for new more shipyards to complete.
It would also help when you play with no minors, in larger galaxies.Iceman wrote:Maybe fleet support for the Borg should be independent of population?
It could increase with turn number (and be modified by AIMode), for example. It wouldn't get out of control as they expand, and the Borg losing colonies (including Unimatrix) would not make them "bankrupt" (forcing the scrapping of ships).
Iceman wrote:In order to prevent the Borg's growth from exploding after asssimilating a few colonies, maybe we should not auto-terraform assimilated systems?
Yep, it's exactly the same issue as in the other game. Will try to fix asap so you can continue.2. this attached game crashes. Here's the error.txt:
Looks like more Orbital Battery stuff? I think this game his toast without some help!
Actually, Makus has the Maturation Chambers built, and its pop is increasing. Kaus Australis though, it was bombed to near extiction, and it doesn't even have pop to activate a single PF...Oh, one other thought. In my Rom game (other thread), I'm guessing the Borg never built the building that adds drones. That seems like what is preventing them from expanding. Just a thought!
Interesting thought!It would also help when you play with no minors, in larger galaxies.
This is an interesting idea.Warp Core Breach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:21 pm This might be too much of an overhaul, especially for AI control: What if the Borg had no shipyards except at Unimatrix.
)The patch should fix it for colonies that are subjugated after applying the patch.Warp Core Breach wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:48 pm (speaking of patches, my game is still crashing for the OB issue after installing today's patch - do I need to start a new game, or is this patch resolving something else?)
In the late game, 0.3 is more than enough for a bunch of Cubes.Playing as the Borg, I think the population support is set too low. I can't build any more ships and with 400 pts (2 cubes, 1 diamond, 3 probes and 2 TH), I can't expand further as I need to defend too much territory and cannot build any more ships. Did I mention that I cannot build any more ships?
The idea is really nice. One downside is that if Unimatrix falls, the Borg cannot build any more ships.Warp Core Breach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:21 pm This might be too much of an overhaul, especially for AI control: What if the Borg had no shipyards except at Unimatrix.
Yes, either have shipyard upgrades (with a huge build cost or something, to delay their availability), or making the +%Shipbuilding of the Unicomplex be empire-wide (a new bonus to be created) so that each new colony can increase Unimatrix's shipbuilding output.There would need to be some reward to ship build rate (increased docks over time?) to support growth of the collective based on assimilating systems.
Probably too big a change, but fun to think about!
Sounds nice. I'm not sure how to implement this though - besides creating another property for ships that will only be used by Borg warships.Another way to manage Borg from growing explosively might be to have the nanoprobes replenish at some rate over time instead of instantly, so ships cannot assimilate multiple planets on successive turns. Or make nanoprobes a resource that needs to be replenished at planets after using them. Nanoprobe levels could replenish at planets similar to garrisons (but faster) and get transferred to sphere/cube/diamond whenever one visits the planet. New facilities could improve the replenishment rate and max amount on-hand.
Yea! Who knows, one day it might actually be reality.Ah well. One can imagine it!
