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Thank you!

Post by crazyewok » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:07 am

I just was a massive fan of the classic BOTF! And I have just stumbled on this! This game is amazing!

Also is there a way to mod this? Would love to slow research down a little more and add my own ships in?

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Re: Thank you!

Post by Iceman » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:28 am

Hey crazyewok!
Thanks for your kind words! Glad you found the game and are enjoying it. It's still a work in progress, so any feedback is welcome.

The game is highly moddable. You basically just need Notepad or Notepad++ (recommended, at least for the xml files).

Re research speed, did you try setting Research Rate to Slow in the Options panel, when starting a game? If you did, and want it to be even slower, edit the following file
\Resources\Tables\GameOptionTables.txt
in the ResearchRate table, change Slow (0.5) to whatever you want. That value is a multiplier applied to your research every turn.

There's a bunch of stuff you can mod in the Tables folder.

As for adding your own ships, you'll need to add them in the following files, in the Resources\Data folder:
TechTrees.xml - add them to your researchable items
TechObjectDatabase.xml - set their stats
TextDatabase.xml - add a description and weapons names
HomeSystems.xml - add them to your starting items in a new game if you wish

You'll also need to add a 2D image, in \Resources\Images\TechObjects\Ships
And if you have a 3D model of the ship to be viewed in the shipbuilding menu, add it to \Resources\Models

Notice the naming of the techobjects, the KEYs must match in the data files, and the 2D image name and the model folder name also must match.

If you need any help, we're here to help!
Have fun!

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Re: Thank you!

Post by crazyewok » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:30 am

Thanks for the quick reply. Your right its proven to be pretty easy to mod.

I was a huge fan of the starfleet command games.

I am trying to make a Science ship, Scout, Frigate, Destroyer, Light cruiser, Heavy Cruiser, Battle cruiser, Battle ship for Klingons, Feds and Romulans for each era separating them into Ent, Discovery/TOS, TMP, TNG and DS9 eras.

I am trying to only use Cannon and Game cannon ships.

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Re: Thank you!

Post by Iceman » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:51 am

Sounds great. We do need to take a hard look at the ship lists, and see if any changes are needed. Some of the 3D models we have did not match the actual ships in the database, because of a shiplist update some time after the models were made...
Danijel has plans to completely redo the Dominion shiplist.
And we need to add a 2nd Construction ship to all the empires (except the Feds which already have it; the Dominion one, I repurposed a minor civ ship some time ago, but no model was converted, so both ships have the same model...).

If you want to help with this (or with anything really), just let us know! We welcome all the help we can get to move this project forward as fast as possible.


Curiously enough, I had this plan to (re)name the civ starting levels to the Eras. :wink:

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Re: Thank you!

Post by Danijel » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:55 am

ou i have "in plan" to redo all lists (and nothing against anyone else doing it ^^ ) as of when is another story, dominion is 1st on my list since they are in biggest mess :D

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Re: Thank you!

Post by crazyewok » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:15 am

Iceman wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:51 am
Sounds great. We do need to take a hard look at the ship lists, and see if any changes are needed. Some of the 3D models we have did not match the actual ships in the database, because of a shiplist update some time after the models were made...
Danijel has plans to completely redo the Dominion shiplist.
And we need to add a 2nd Construction ship to all the empires (except the Feds which already have it; the Dominion one, I repurposed a minor civ ship some time ago, but no model was converted, so both ships have the same model...).

If you want to help with this (or with anything really), just let us know! We welcome all the help we can get to move this project forward as fast as possible.


Curiously enough, I had this plan to (re)name the civ starting levels to the Eras. :wink:
Yeah sure I will share and upload any changes I make.

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Re: Thank you!

Post by Iceman » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:32 am

Cool!

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Re: Thank you!

Post by crazyewok » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:24 pm

What is the best way to send files here?

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Post by Iceman » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:37 pm

I think uploading files to BitBucket requiers Write access, which only Mike (Strobel) can give.
But you can attach small files (not sure what the limit is), or you can email them to me if you prefer. I'll PM you.

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Re: Thank you!

Post by crazyewok » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:47 pm

Cool.

I hope to have my idea of a fed ship list done sat or Sunday. No 3d models yet.
After that Klingon then romulan.

After that I will try and source some 3d models

Problem will be getting star trek discovery 3d models.

Pretty much trying to get for each race:

5 levels of:
Science vessel
Scout
Frigate
Destroyer
Light cruiser
Heavy cruiser
Battle cruiser
Battle ship.
E.g for fed.

Science vessel
Valiant
Kelvin
Oberth
Raven
Nova

Scout
Discovery (from legacy game not series)
Hermes
Hermes refit
Freedom
Sabre

Frigate
Franklin
Magee
Okinawa(star fleet command game)
New orleans
Norway

Destroyer

Ganges
Walker
Akula
Challenger
Steam runner

Light cruiser
Intrepid (ent era)
Nimitz
Miranda
Centar
Intrepid

Heavy cruiser
NX
Connie
Connie refit
Niagra
Akira

Battle cruiser

Daedulas
Sheppard class
Excelicor
Nebula
Prometheus

Battleship
Yorktown ( legacy game)
Hoover
Yamoto (SFC)
Ambassador
Galaxy
Sovereign

Fast destroyers
Cardenas
Constellation
Cheyenne
Defiant.

All ships are either sourced from canon or from official PC games.
I plan to have a similar list for romulans and klingons.

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Re: Thank you!

Post by Danijel » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:10 pm

I advise that you keep working on one civ at the time, getting em all mayor civs ships will get you to amount of over 150 models to work with in no time.

3d model format needs to be .x cus of xna
images/textures can be in any "familiar" format,..jpg,gif,png,bmp..

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Re: Thank you!

Post by crazyewok » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:35 am

Danijel wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:10 pm
I advise that you keep working on one civ at the time, getting em all mayor civs ships will get you to amount of over 150 models to work with in no time.

3d model format needs to be .x cus of xna
images/textures can be in any "familiar" format,..jpg,gif,png,bmp..
Yup that's the plan.

Fed first as they are the easist and can get to grips with the game.

Prob do romulans next.

Then Klingons.


Might add a fighter class aswell for late game. We see in DS9 fighters.

Not adding the crossfields class as discovery has stated only 2 where made and they are expiremental plus game unbalancing.

The other idea is 3 classes of starbase.
Outpost
Starbase
Spacedock.

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Re: Thank you!

Post by Iceman » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:03 pm

Wow, that's 45 ships not counting non-combat ships, and stations. That's a lot of ships, and a lot of models... balance (and purpose) will be a nightmare.
You'll probably not be able to get as many ships for the other major civs.

I'll be interesting to see how this will turn out! :up:

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Re: Thank you!

Post by Danijel » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:31 pm

it turns out like this :lol:
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Re: Thank you!

Post by Iceman » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:38 pm

:shock: hehe

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