Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

This forum contains threads from support forum outdated or no longer neede.

Moderator: thunderchero

User avatar
thunderchero
Site Administrator aka Fleet Admiral
Site  Administrator aka Fleet Admiral
Posts: 6066
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:00 am
Location: On a three month training mission, in command of the USS Valiant.
Contact:

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by thunderchero » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:29 am

adi wrote: imagine my disappointment on finding out that Win8 does not run botf properly.
it sucks I know.

thunderchero

User avatar
adi
Commander
Commander
Posts: 442
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:53 pm
Location: US East Coast

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by adi » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:08 am

it does but every cloud has a silver lining; i wanted to check for a while if I can port my changes by re installing a brand new UDMd and just copying over stbof.res and trek.exe. It worked! Well, i did not play it, but i went to the research screen and view the ship list; all the shiny new ones were there and apart from the awful delay when clicking worked fine.

@TC: I think this piece of information can be useful to others that do not build installers and want to port there changes. If you also think so, please copy it to SCT's HowTo section or something. I'll do it myself but i am not sure where to put it.

User avatar
Flocke
BORG Trouble Maker
BORG Trouble Maker
Posts: 2546
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:00 am
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Contact:

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by Flocke » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:19 am

had a strange issue with it today, cleaned botf, reinstalled vanilla and it would not run anymore, even with admin rights
then I enabled win98/95 compability mode, it worked, disabled the compability mode again and it continued to work :shock:

whatever, but mouse still sucks in vanilla...

User avatar
adi
Commander
Commander
Posts: 442
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:53 pm
Location: US East Coast

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by adi » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:32 am

I am glad mpr++ exists; recently i ported botf to a windows8 computer and the mouse lag was terrible enough to make the game not playable. Once i installed mpr++ everything is fine; and it might be just my impression but the ships in the research page looked very crisp. Thanks Floke!

User avatar
thunderchero
Site Administrator aka Fleet Admiral
Site  Administrator aka Fleet Admiral
Posts: 6066
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:00 am
Location: On a three month training mission, in command of the USS Valiant.
Contact:

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by thunderchero » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:02 am

Hi Everyone,

From time to time since I am running windows 8, I will play with different thing to attempt to get rid of the mouse problem (shutter, lag) what ever you want to call it.

Well I found a temporary solution for the problem on windows 8. This problem looks like a windows resolution problem. desktop being 1024 x 768 (or what ever) while game is 800 x 600 it is like it causes mouse to be out of sync.

So what I have done is added Flocke pseudo windowed mode code and set the trek.exe to use "reduced color mode" 16-bit (65536) color in compatibility setting. Screen will be located in upper left corner but game runs great and mouse has no lag.

I made a patch file for QD's patcher to make editing easier.

Make a backup before editing..... :wink:
pseudo_windowed_mode.patch
(804 Bytes) Downloaded 29 times
Hope it works for everyone

thunderchero

User avatar
Flocke
BORG Trouble Maker
BORG Trouble Maker
Posts: 2546
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:00 am
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Contact:

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by Flocke » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:39 am

interesting, might be just setting 16bit mode then. Further, did you try applying just part of pseudo windowed code?
On my system sadly neither windows nor ati vision driver does allow me to set 16bit mode for the desktop.

User avatar
thunderchero
Site Administrator aka Fleet Admiral
Site  Administrator aka Fleet Admiral
Posts: 6066
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:00 am
Location: On a three month training mission, in command of the USS Valiant.
Contact:

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by thunderchero » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:33 am

Flocke wrote:On my system sadly neither windows nor ati vision driver does allow me to set 16bit mode for the desktop.
correct windows 8 will not allow this, you must right click the trek.exe and select compatability tab and click box for"reduced color mode" and change to 16-bit (65536) color.
Flocke wrote:did you try applying just part of pseudo windowed code?
I did test this today and if at 0x001127F3 01 -> 00 is changed, that is only code change needed to fix mouse problem (compatibility is still needed). but it is full screen (what ever your desktop resolusion is set to) and game is in upper left in 800 x 600 with black on right and bottom.

thunderchero

User avatar
irishlaura
Cadet 1st Year
Cadet 1st Year
Posts: 2
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:26 am

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by irishlaura » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:34 am

Thank you so much! I just got a new laptop with Windows 8 and installed BotF and the mouse lag was horrible.
But I found this site and your MPR++ and all is right in the world again. :)
Thanks again xx

User avatar
trek4life
Cadet 1st Year
Cadet 1st Year
Posts: 2
Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:46 pm

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by trek4life » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:03 am

I cannot get it to work on windows 8. It loads the game but I only see a part of the full image kinda like the first post of this thread describes it...

I tried changing resolution and compatibility mode but it does not work...

What does mpr++ mean??? Is it some kind of mod????

User avatar
adi
Commander
Commander
Posts: 442
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:53 pm
Location: US East Coast

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by adi » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:41 am

MPR++ is a graphic engine; it replaces the one from Botf; it will make your game work in Win8 and it also makes the ships look damn' good; the only drawback is that if you have too many ships in a battle it will slow down the battle; Floke is working on that.
I am not sure where i install the last version from; better ask Floke

User avatar
Smoothgrandmama
Cadet 3rd Year
Cadet 3rd Year
Posts: 12
Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:45 am

Re: Windows 8 problems/solutions please post them here

Post by Smoothgrandmama » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:57 am

Mpr++ Is a life saver!

User avatar
Nemo1701
Cadet 3rd Year
Cadet 3rd Year
Posts: 13
Joined: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:44 am

Windows 8 COMPLETE FIX - Vanilla Game

Post by Nemo1701 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:19 am

Updated instructions:
Insert the 3 files below from the zip into the c:\botf folder with no addons. Start the game up and it will appear frozen, with a icon showing in the title bar, press alt tab once or click 2 or 3 times in the open space of the desktop. and the game should load up full screen.

Update: I have also noticed that the game crashes or fails to load much more when in compatibility mode, when starting the game it works better with no compatibility tab settings on.

Here is a link to the files.

Direct link to zip
http://tore.cnc-comm.com/TS_Win8fix.zip

ddraw.dll
libwine.dll
wined3d.dll

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Original Post

Yesterday I accidentally stumbled on a complete fix for the direct draw issues present in windows 8 with the original game. I was trying to get the main menu of C&C Tiberian sun working when I found this youtube video with links in the description to a fix. On the site there is a zip folder called TS_win8fix.zip which as far as I can tell the direct draw files from the Wine project. Place these files in the c:/botf folder, and the game no longer as any graphical, sound issues or mouse lag, also the game is finding the original game cd without a no cd patch.
Last edited by Nemo1701 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:12 pm, edited 8 times in total.

User avatar
Flocke
BORG Trouble Maker
BORG Trouble Maker
Posts: 2546
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:00 am
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Contact:

Re: Windows 8 COMPLETE FIX - Vanilla Game

Post by Flocke » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:09 am

very cool if that works! :up:
thank you and welcome aboard the forum

User avatar
adi
Commander
Commander
Posts: 442
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:53 pm
Location: US East Coast

Re: Windows 8 COMPLETE FIX - Vanilla Game

Post by adi » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:45 am

Well, it's a bit late for April fools so i'll give it a try as soon as i get home.
thanks!

User avatar
captaindusk
Commander
Commander
Posts: 293
Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:00 am

Re: Windows 8 COMPLETE FIX - Vanilla Game

Post by captaindusk » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:52 am

Does this also work with mods or just with plain vanilla game?

Post Reply

Return to “Support Archive”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users