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SEASON 09/10 DISCUSSION THREAD....

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:53 am
by jonboylondon
I thought id open this with a few thoughts for future 09/10 tornaments using same points format with a bit of a twist...

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Clan Wars.... 3 of each clans best do battle in mp 3 single games then two mp games (each playing two games)..clan with most points wins... 8O

Tag Team Tornament - Pair up with a partner and duke it out (no two seeds together) will you fight in clans or mix it up??? 8O (Dissy and goop suggested something similar)

AI PUMPED MP- MP at tech below the AI you must face a battle on more than one front....

T1 No Minors:Colonial Wars - There are dedicated T1 and low tech players - this ones for you....

3 WAY FFA
- Lose get 1 point, come second get 2, win get 4... 8O


JBL

:P

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:14 am
by Pigman
Hi JBL

Not sure I really understand the Clan Wars option.

Tag Team Tournament - Great idea

AI PUMPED MP - Really great idea (especially on impossible)

T1 No Minors:Colonial Wars - Don't like not having Minors, but some may like it

3 WAY FFA - Yep, could be good, will be interesting to have three way games

Again, my concern is offer too many options and water down participation, or maybe it'll increase?

Regards

Pigman

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:13 am
by RSE_Chris
Clan wars: Sounds good

Tag Team: Sounds good

AI: hmm, not interested in concentrating on AI. I play MP to play humans only. :)

T1: T1 is fun, but may not be practical as games will be long.

3 way: Doesn't work. 1 person fights 2nd person, 3 person sits it out then cleans up. Or, it ends up being a 2vs1 unintentionally.

Edit: On clan wars, you say 3 best of each, RSE has only 2 active, unless mickar would come on our team since he is minority too (a sir). :)

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:19 pm
by FATIGUES
I like all of your ideas here Jon.

P.S. Are ya still makin potato's? :wink:

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:26 pm
by mickar
Clan wars: How many clans are there with 3 members? I'm only one, a Sir. But just for fun, I declare WAR against all other clans!!!:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Tag team: I love team games, sign me up.

AI: I can play single if I want to battle the computer, mp is against humans.

T1 no minors: Long games but sign me up.

3 way ffa: 3 way games suck, chris already said why.

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:51 pm
by jonboylondon
I think some mis-understand the AI will only be at tech above, you will still be mp against human players.... just will add a diferent perspective... :wink:

JBL

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:31 am
by Pigman
Hi JBL

You said
I think some mis-understand the AI will only be at tech above, you will still be mp against human players.... just will add a diferent perspective...
RSE_Chris said
AI: hmm, not interested in concentrating on AI. I play MP to play humans only.
mickar said
AI: I can play single if I want to battle the computer, mp is against humans.
To your original suggestion of
AI PUMPED MP- MP at tech below the AI you must face a battle on more than one front....
Forgive me for speaking on your behalf gentlemen, but JBL, I believe they fully understand what you mean and don't want to play games where the AI has that much influence/impact. Hope I've got that right guys.

I said
AI PUMPED MP - Really great idea (especially on impossible)
Maybe I was rash, but I think it would be fun and certainly more of a challenge, however the AI may not have the same impact on both players so it may not be a very even or fair game, but I still like the idea.

Just my thoughts

Regards

Pigman

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:28 am
by jigalypuff
Had my first mp game in years yesterday with carcher, going to finish it today. I doubt it`ll take long now i know how large his fleet is :) He is currently outnumbered 3 to 1 :)

I had forgotten how great this game is against people, so i`m up for this tourny.

As the sole survivor of the remnant clan Sir_mickars declaration is taken up, well do i recall the carnage wrought by the Sir`s on the zone :)
Vengance shall be mine.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:08 am
by RSE_Chris
Yes Pigman, you're correct.
jigalypuff wrote:Had my first mp game in years yesterday with carcher, going to finish it today. I doubt it`ll take long now i know how large his fleet is :) He is currently outnumbered 3 to 1 :)

I had forgotten how great this game is against people, so i`m up for this tourny.

As the sole survivor of the remnant clan Sir_mickars declaration is taken up, well do i recall the carnage wrought by the Sir`s on the zone :)
Vengance shall be mine.
Great, welcome back to MP. :D

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:06 pm
by RSE_Dissy
we need stability..
we should decide on a normal tournament structure (cup) format, and have a on going ladder system which is continual, with rankings similar to chess @ yahoo, start at 1500 rise upwards as you win, and fall as you loose, this is how ladder scores still work afaik...

the ladder would be easy (VERY easy) to set up and they would do all the math, so no work for us -> Just signing up!


but seriously, we're overcomplicating things and with non finished tournies in history , stability, for a few seasons, would be prudent..

i'd just like to stress caution in doing something that seems quite complicated, as the current tournie system is working OK(bar afew mishaps).

a ladder system would be brilliant, as it'll be open to any mod/any tech/any setting and would be continuous so all who play all mods could compete.

this can run simultaneously as rotating mod tournaments (cup) systems

stabilty ftw
simplicity ftw

at least for now

this post also is of signifiance to jbl's other thread

peace&love guys

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:07 pm
by RSE_Dissy
good to see your back jig btw!

oh and my above post would prlly be better suited in that other thread sorry :s

um thunder could move?

peace&love

edit; man i said stability alot in that above post didnt i .. as if! heh! yea well ignore AI, mp vs 1v1 ai not a factor btw plz:p

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:11 pm
by RSE_Dissy
oh adendum

clan wars: there are no clans, just players that play under the same flag. a clan is more than 20 people surely? so nono there!

tag team: as in 2v2? sounds fine ye its a good idea to do a 2v2 tournie.

AI better: not really necessary , mostly superficial, they will turn tide (possibily) during war with intelligent human - or not and just be rubbish, they always rubbish, can't see your weak spots

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:03 pm
by RSE_Chris
RSE_Dissy wrote:
clan wars: there are no clans, just players that play under the same flag. a clan is more than 20 people surely? so nono there!
Does it really matter? I think it's just about creating some challenges between the various people under certain tags, 'tag pride' perhaps? :P

The only prob is there are some minorities (like us) so maybe people would have to join forces, but I suppose then there isn't much point it being called a clan/tag war.

Although anything is good to get more games being played.