Hi Everyone,

The 20th Anniversary of the release of Birth of the Federation is now less than 2 months away "May 25 2019" it is gratuitous that it also falls on Saturday.

I propose we gather on GameRanger for quick multi-player games and reminiscing about our favorite game.

I will try to be on GameRanger as much as I can that day and night and hope to see you there.

thunderchero

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Options during Tactical Combat

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Options during Tactical Combat

Post by Snapper9 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:15 pm

In the original version of the game, Tactical Combat has several options for the ships/groups. These options are called:

Charge
Harry
Strafe
Evade
Ram
Retreat
Hail
Select

Which maneuvers are hidden behind the mentioned options? What especially are purposes of "Charge", "Harry" and "Strafe"?

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Re: Options during Tactical Combat

Post by thunderchero » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:06 pm

the ship commands refer to how they will move in combat toward selected target.
when each command is selected it will display an image on left of basic movement.
some commands are for single ship while other are for groups of ships.

How they actually move depends of what command the target uses.

each command uses different probabilities to calculate effectiveness/damage, but this all depends on counter commands also.

example; charge vs charge would do max damage to all ships, while charge vs evade would prolong battle.

but to be honest any battle human vs AI are very simple and mostly favors human.
if AI has advantage they will attack
if AI is at disadvantage they always retreat

This is why combat is best experienced in Multi player human vs human

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Re: Options during Tactical Combat

Post by Snapper9 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:43 pm

I understand the example. But how do the other combinations actually work?

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Re: Options during Tactical Combat

Post by thunderchero » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:13 pm

Snapper9 wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:43 pm
I understand the example. But how do the other combinations actually work?
as far as I know no one has documented how each command works against other commands.

this would be a very difficult test to do. and I doubt any one would take the time to do it.

sorry

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Re: Options during Tactical Combat

Post by Snapper9 » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:08 pm

I would do it, if I knew how.

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Re: Options during Tactical Combat

Post by Kurn » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:54 am

thunderchero wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:06 pm

if AI is at disadvantage they always retreat
mostly, not always. I had some battles with AI ships, although they were outnumbered.

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Re: Options during Tactical Combat

Post by thunderchero » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:54 pm

Kurn wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:54 am
thunderchero wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:06 pm

if AI is at disadvantage they always retreat
mostly, not always. I had some battles with AI ships, although they were outnumbered.
correct, I should have said "most of the time" but they will fight to the end when they have "something to protect at all cost".

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Re: Options during Tactical Combat

Post by Martok » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:33 pm

thunderchero wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:54 pm
Kurn wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:54 am
thunderchero wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:06 pm

if AI is at disadvantage they always retreat
mostly, not always. I had some battles with AI ships, although they were outnumbered.
correct, I should have said "most of the time" but they will fight to the end when they have "something to protect at all cost".

What would "something" like that be? A particularly important star system, I'm guessing?
"Evil is easy, and has infinite forms." -- Pascal

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Re: Options during Tactical Combat

Post by thunderchero » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:13 pm

I will always remember my favorite game ever,

it was early in a game and I was playing as Klingons. The Federation was in the center of the map and they had treaties with all other races but me. I went for the kill shot and attacked Sol first with everything I had (5 full fleets of heavy cruiser + 5 troop transports) I took sol on the first assault. For the next 25 turns every race converged on sol to take revenge. I was able to hold my ground against every battle and only lost 4 heavy cruisers while sending 4 new fleets to wipe out the other Federation colonies.

It was many epic battles with even more smaller battles when they had no chance to survive. And I don't remember any ships retreating. But once Federation was gone it went back to normal.

but to your question that is just one example (revenge), but there are many more reasons

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