Why Does My Side Withdraw A Treaty (Twice)?

[cleverwise]

I have an issue that keeps happening and I am not sure the reason. I have noticed some times I offer a minor race a treaty (any) and the next move my side withdraws that treaty. I didn't cancel it and it always is double listed like: Romulans withdraw friendship for X (on two lines).

I haven't figured out why this happens and what I can do about it. The other race isn't affiliated or a member of any one. I have even had this happen when said race is at full worship status (no more bars up) and I give the max credits allowed.

[thunderchero]

I have no idea why it does the double entry, but most of the time when you see a proposal withdrawn it is due to some other race has signed an agreement with the race you had proposal. this could be any thing from friendship to war pact.

thunderchero

[cleverwise]

Well it would have to be a war pact because the race shows Neutral for all major powers on the relationship screen.

[adi]

It probably appears twice because you might have proposed it two turns in a row; it takes two turns for them to accept or reject.
The likeliest scenario is that the said minor just got conquered; but you said they show as neutral so i don't know maybe they got wiped in the conquest.

[cleverwise]

I do realize it takes two turns for a reply. However I still can't figure out the request other than a war pact. For like 50 turns the minor is neutral to all major powers. Isn't conquered, affiliated, friendshiped, etc but just neutral period. There is no base in their space. I have gotten the power to 100% full bars (full Worship status) yet my side withdraws any treaty immediately sent to that minor.

I honestly just don't understand short of maybe a war pact. I am thinking next time I have the game open I will see if I can make a request to them so I can note what happens. It is odd.

[cleverwise]

I will add I know and understand when the minor is conquered or affiliated I realize my side would withdraw the treaty automatically. I know that happens for members when a minor is conquered. However as stated this minor only has neutral status and that is the way it has been for 50+ turns (that's when I located their system).

Again it must be a war pact; against me perhaps. Still I am not 100% sure.

[thunderchero]

got a saved game? upload it.

what version/mod?

what is your race?

thunderchero

[cleverwise]

Sure! I can grab the saved file when I fire up that system. I'll try to do it later today.

Version/Mod: Vanilla 1.0.2

Race: Romulans

Minor: Tamarians

[cleverwise]

Okay you should find the file attached. You need to change the extension back to .sav.

Vanilla 1.0.2
Romulan's trying to friend, affiliation, member Tamarians.

[thunderchero]

at some point the Tamarians were subjugated by some race and they rebelled.

there is a fix for this but does not work on saved games.
QD patcher patch "Minor race rebelled / message withdrawn Bugfix"
viewtopic.php?f=242&t=1082

but there is a manual fix of saved game. here is edited saved game

game0.txt

(179.02 KiB) Downloaded 191 times

thunderchero

[cleverwise]

Thanks that explains it. I noticed that post explains how you edit trek.exe is there a post on editing the saved game files?

[thunderchero]

here is post on editing saved game (alieninfo file)

viewtopic.php?f=3&p=6465#p6465

thunderchero

[cleverwise]

Thanks TC!

I'll do that as I have seen this bug before and scratched my head going what the heck?!

I am wondering if UE could be used to clear the minor's conquered status. I don't have any of these files on this workstation as I play BoTF using an old laptop. So I'll have to test this stuff next time I am on that system.