Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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Hi folks.

This mod pack is incredible. I've been having huge amounts of fun with it. Until recently. Ever since I reinstalled the game with the latest installer (ironically to fix the problem that hasn't gone away) I have been unable to make it through a single battle. The two parties line up at the start of the battle as normal, but as soon as I press "turn" (or as the first turn resolves) the game crashes. The only time I made it through a battle was when the Calamarain attacked my Cardassian starbase. The first time around the game crashed when I moved the camera during the fight, so I restarted and tried again. I didn't move the camera at all and survived two turns until my starbase got the job done.

I've tried Kharille's strategy of starting the game in compatibility mode for various versions of Windows but nothing helps, and in some cases the game fails to load at all.

Does anyone out there have any suggestions or directions? I love this game. I just wish I could still play it!

My system is an AMD FX 6300 with 8Gb RAM and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti with the 23.21.13.8871 driver.

Thanks in advance, folks!
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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more info please,

operating system? current and old if different.

when game was re-installed did operating system change?

game install options selected?

are you using DxWnd?

any crash logs?

any saved game ready for combat I could test?
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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Hi! Thanks so much for this! Let's see now...

Windows 8.1. Hasn't changed since I started using the mods.

Game install options:
o Install DxWnd files (bg Gho)
- Set icons to use Fullscreen DxWnd Command line arguments
o Install Ultimate Editor (bg Dcer)
o Install QD's Patcher (by QuasarDonkey)
Vanilla Tasks
o Leave original 800 x 600 GUI
- Create Birth of the Federation Desktop Icon
- Install hob fix, (patch for evade and retreat CTD)
- replacement 512 x 512 Model textures (cosmetic patch)
- replacement ship Build screen tga images (cosmetic patch)
- gui fixes (functional fixes and cosmetic patch)

UM5 Tasks
o 1024 x 768 released GUI

- Install hob fix, (patch for evade and retreat CTD)
- Create UM5 Desktop Icon

Using DxWnd: I... think so.

Error log:
Faulting application name: trek.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x37965563
Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000094
Faulting process ID: 0x123c
Faulting application start time: 0x01d45e4c0e1de433
Faulting application path: C:\botf\UM5\trek.exe
Faulting module path: unknown
Report ID: 6b1209d3-ca3f-11e8-84e8-bcee7b5e7bd1
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

Is there a good site for me to upload a save file to?

EDIT: After I presented my specs yesterday, I noticed my graphics card driver was out of date. I'm now using 23.21.13.9135. Alas, still crashing.
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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Nagus of Biscuits wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:57 am Game install options:
o Install DxWnd files (bg Gho)
- Set icons to use Fullscreen DxWnd Command line arguments
o Install Ultimate Editor (bg Dcer)
o Install QD's Patcher (by QuasarDonkey)
Vanilla Tasks
o Leave original 800 x 600 GUI
- Create Birth of the Federation Desktop Icon
- Install hob fix, (patch for evade and retreat CTD)
- replacement 512 x 512 Model textures (cosmetic patch)
- replacement ship Build screen tga images (cosmetic patch)
- gui fixes (functional fixes and cosmetic patch)

UM5 Tasks
o 1024 x 768 released GUI

- Install hob fix, (patch for evade and retreat CTD)
- Create UM5 Desktop Icon
I don't understand your o and -
Nagus of Biscuits wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:57 am Using DxWnd: I... think so.
check properties of desktop shortcut for "target" if dxwnd is in use it should be something like this
C:\botf\tools\dxwnd_windowed\dxwnd.exe /R:9
Nagus of Biscuits wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:57 am Is there a good site for me to upload a save file to?
when writing a post if you look below the submit button you will see 2 tab "option" and "Attachments" select attachment tab and upload file.
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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Ah. Sorry. Save uploaded. I've got some battleships whose crews have no idea what they're doing, off to go ham on some Dominion troop transports. They get their orders, start to move, and the game crashes when they go to open fire. Specifically, the ships can fire off a few torpedoes before the crash, but I've never seen their phasers fire since the crashing started. I don't know if that's significant. Hailing the Dominion ships causes them to flee and the battle to resolve without a crash.

"o" was me trying to illustrate a selected dot. "-" is just to show a ticked box. Basically, every option that I selected was what I listed.

My shortcut's target is:
C:\botf\tools\dxwnd_Fullscreen\dxwnd.exe /R:9
Attachments
game0.sav
(224.02 KiB) Downloaded 141 times
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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sorry to say it looks like a video driver issue,

when I loaded your saved game I had no issues in combat though 3 separate battles.

you might try replacing with older driver
https://www.nvidia.com/drivers/beta
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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I'll give that a go. Thanks for all your help!
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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Hello! Great mod! Improves the game quite a bit and gives it a freshness.

I do have a question about the Borg. I started seeing them around turn 200. Then by turn 225, I was constantly getting hit by a new Borg cube. Must of gotten 10-12 Borg cubes in a 15-20 turn period. They are nearly ruining the game. Is this suppose to happen or maybe a bug? I know about going into the ini file and turning them off but I like seeing them show up periodically, just not every other turn. Any help?
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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Hi SoonerJedi84,

I am not sure if Dafedz edited the borg spawn/frequency code, has this happened a lot of UM5?

you may have just had a bad/un-lucky game. since borg generate from the edge of the map, home world on the edge get hit first :grin:
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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Thanks thunderchero!

Do you know if I can edit the Borg frequency with the editor? I've got it installed but I wasn't sure how or if that was editable. Thanks for responding so quick!
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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code would require hex editing, here is topic with spawn info

viewtopic.php?f=230&t=1273#p27201
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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Is there a list of minor races with their attributes for UM5?
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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not that I know of, you can view minor races in UE
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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Hello, I do get the laggy mouse cursor, could it be the GPU driver? Win 10, GeForce GTX 980 Ti driver: 445.87 and playing in 1024... 1920 crashes when I click on a ingame menue (like science, intel etc.).

I remember that this is one of the most challenging mods but the mouse is killing me^^ Thanks for the help.
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Re: Ultimate Mod 5 v2.5 1024 (Updated 15/2/16)

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how are you starting game?
desktop shortcut?
start menu shortcut?
directly from install folder?

DxWnd fixes mouse lag it sounds like you may have installed before you installed tools or wrong path
to use Dxwnd though shortcut properties would be something like this
for windowed
C:\botf\tools\dxwnd_windowed\dxwnd.exe /R:9
for fullscreen
C:\botf\tools\dxwnd_Fullscreen\dxwnd.exe /R:9
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