Creating Balanced Privat Mod

[Mr_Sloan]

not finished / abandond.

[thunderchero]

but i want to use the planet mod as well and copied it over botf.res

it works. or
First Question:
shell i run MPR++ over that res as well (again)?
in both cases planet mod remains

this will not work for multiplayer games since it use registry to use direct play

here is instructions on how it should be done
viewtopic.php?f=134&t=3906#p51850

For ship import i found this:
http://flocke.bplaced.net/botfwiki/inde ... s_using_UE

As for adding ships to MPR++ that way will interfere with the MPR++ hob mapping and you need to follow these instructions
viewtopic.php?f=134&p=51857#p51857

[thunderchero]

will read that the upcoming day. thank you.

i just saw 1080p gives 1080 resolution while mpr++ adds 1024 ships. so maybe when i replace one the old ship is still there because it uses the 1024 variant?

MPR++ used to have 2 installers
MPR++_demo_installer_0.2.6c.exe
1024_MPR++_demo_installer_0.2.6c.exe (this file is no longer being distributed and should not be used) resolution is best handled with All in one installer.

the 1024 version only edited the resolution of game, the ships and mpr++ files were the exact same.

[Mr_Sloan]

Summery:
asking whether or have the right mpr++ version in mpr++ forum, cause it seems i have 1024 version.

Ok, learning skills / having links to instructions:

skilled for doing own planet mod CHECK
How to add ships (see above) CHECK
How to import/export ship stats here viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3893&start=15 CHECK
How to add scrap to onl 25%? Where was that again thunderchereo?

[thunderchero]

asking whether or have the right mpr++ version in mpr++ forum, cause it seems i have 1024 version.

I answered this question in post above

MPR++ used to have 2 installers
MPR++_demo_installer_0.2.6c.exe
1024_MPR++_demo_installer_0.2.6c.exe (this file is no longer being distributed and should not be used) resolution is best handled with All in one installer.

the 1024 version only edited the resolution of game, the ships and mpr++ files were the exact same.

How to add scrap to onl 25%? Where was that again thunderchereo?

the bof_patcher and instructions can be found here
viewtopic.php?f=126&t=2515#p35394

the patch files from thunderchero MP mod can be found here
viewtopic.php?f=47&p=51736#p51736
the patch folder has a total of 97 patches, but the one you are asking about is named "ship scrap 25%"

[Spocks-cuddly-tribble]

But be aware that ship scrap is only one out of eight codes in BotF responsible for Converting Industry into Credits:

viewtopic.php?f=158&t=1227#p34040

[Mr_Sloan]

But be aware that ship scrap is only one out of eight codes in BotF responsible for Converting Industry into Credits:

viewtopic.php?f=158&t=1227#p34040

Ok, so if i understand you correctly reducing ship scraping to 25% does not help much because people would simply build buildings and scrap them?

Is there a patch reducing all 8 income credit exploits?

[Spocks-cuddly-tribble]

Not exactly, since ship scrap is the only code in original BotF providing you with serious cash. An infamous bug/omission together with insta-terraform and phantom dilithium (looking into dilithium options is important for a MP mod).

There is no patch out (AFAIK), because the shared base conversion code I linked requires adaption to your needs i.e. hex-coding.

Anyhow, I don't want to OT spam in Flocke's MPR++ area and tunderchero's great tutorial.

[Mr_Sloan]

thanks Spcoks-cuddly-tribble

@Thunderchero
Ok i try to keep it simple and not use 1080p, since one friend cannot install it anyway.

So...
vanilla
+
mpr++
then add scrap patch
then edit my own planet mod in
then edit stats & ships (especiall UDMs).

mpr++ install says 1024x...
so shell i install the vanilla game also 1024?
or 800x600 or 1336... ?
purpose of the question is stability when adding UDM ship models.

Edit: currently getting scrap patch into the trek.exe is there any other imporant patch? (see 75 fixes) and if yes, who do i have to ask to add it?

[thunderchero]

mpr++ install says 1024x...
so shell i install the vanilla game also 1024?
or 800x600 or 1336... ?
purpose of the question is stability when adding UDM ship models.

when adding ships it does not matter what resolution you use as long as ships are added correctly.

Edit: currently getting scrap patch into the trek.exe is there any other imporant patch? (see 75 fixes) and if yes, who do i have to ask to add it?

it is your mod, you need to read info about each patch and decide if it is needed in your mod.
when a patch is selected in bof_patcher 90% of them will have a link (open url) at bottom for info on the patch selected

I am not here to advise you on your mod, I help with technical issues.

[Mr_Sloan]

Yeah the question would basicly be: results adding fixes more or less stability.

I guess all player need to install the same resolution if wanting to play MP? Are stbof.res /trek.exe mods resolution specific, or is the resolution independen from the mod files stbof.res / trek.exe?

Any, thanks for all your technical help. Woudnt have been able to do this without you.

[thunderchero]

Yeah the question would basicly be: results adding fixes more or less stability.

You have to test any and every changes, that is why the current mod I am working has taken 3 years
but what works for my mod may not work or be stable in your mod.

I guess all player need to install the same resolution if wanting to play MP?

yes all player in mp games need to be using same resolution.

Are stbof.res /trek.exe mods resolution specific, or is the resolution independen from the mod files stbof.res / trek.exe?

all game files are in stbof.res (ships, resolution, structures, race info, text everything) and trek.exe controls those files and how they are used.
the trek.exe depends on other files in the install path and use install path and registry to find them. This is why no file should be moved from original install path.

[Mr_Sloan]

Ok. So i keep additional patches out.

Thanks for the clearity about resolutions and res + trek.exe

[thunderchero]

thank you for reporting bad link, but that patch only works on vanilla and will not work on MPR++

MPR++ does not use original explosions or those texture/palettes.

[Mr_Sloan]

ok. Mpr++ has 119 paletts. for a standard amount of ship. is there a way to reduce the paletts in another way while still have the same amount or more of ships?