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Re: Picard is back in a new Trek series!!!

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It's because it was made in the binge-watch era, were we're meant to watch all of them at once. I watched ALL of The Expanse Season 4.

Last episode of Picard I watched was the one where pickedonalot and socky went to where Riker and Riker were living on a world with their daughter.
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Indeed @binge-watching-era.

I did the exact same thing with the Expanse season 4. While I enjoyed and re-watched 1-3 a couple of times I don't feel the urge to do the same with s4 of the Expanse.

Ah well Alex, I mean it's ok to stop watching the show. I'd highly recommend finishing it, though. The special effects inside the Borg Cube were amazing.

For the future, I hope they'll develop the characters a bit more.

Other than that, I'm looking forward to the new show of the mirror universe evil emperor ass-kicking chick from Disco. I liked her a lot.
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Re: Picard is back in a new Trek series!!!

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Watch the Red Letter Media review, if you haven't already. I expected a lot of comedy but it actually made me sad. I haven't watched any Star Trek show since 2009 but even without any expectations I am still disappointed.
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Re: Picard is back in a new Trek series!!!

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I have to say that I too am disappointed with the direction this franchise has followed.

The Abrams movies are nothing more that Star Wars in Star Trek clothing. Star Trek Discovery lost me when I saw what they had done to the Klingons and their ships. And now Star Trek Picard seems to be doing the same thing to the Romulans.

How did the Romulans acquire an intact cube? And where is the offensive and defensive technology they would have acquired from it? The adaptive shields and more powerful disruptors, torpedoes and ablative armour? Not to mention transwarp technology. Can you imagine uprated warbirds with all these new improvements? Where are the new designs replacing the Valdores and D’deridexes?

Yet what do we see in ST Picard? A Romulan fleet of over 200 ships made up of what look like green bats, being faced down by a Federation fleet. Really? This, from an empire that went on the offensive across FIFTEEN sectors in the Dominion War and saved the Federation/Klingon alliance from imminent defeat?

For me, canon Star Trek ended with Nemesis. Romulus is only destroyed in the Abrams timeline. If that timeline and subsequent series like Discovery and Picard are invalid, then so is the destruction of the Romulan homeworld. In my view, Romulan society does not collapse after Shinzon’s attempted coup. Sure, the Senate and Praetor have been eliminated, but the military is still intact. Donatra and the other admirals would have been quick to install a military government until a new Senate and Praetor were elected. Donatra did indeed aid Picard in fighting the Scimitar, but he was just a useful tool in her revenge on Shinzon after he spurned her advances (if hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, then a scorned Romulan female invites a supernova)! And with Donatra’s subsequent less than friendly view of humans, I wouldn’t be surprised if she bumps off Sela (who is after all half human).

Star Trek has always looked at current social issues in its episodes. With the covid 19 pandemic
raging across the world, Star Trek writers could easily have developed a story line about a virulent space plague sweeping across the galaxy and afflicting all the major empires. How this affected individuals and whole societies and how by eventually putting aside their differences (after many hurdles), previously antagonistic governments could have worked together to find a cure. And bring about a feeling of hope for the future. That is classic Star Trek.

Instead, what we now get is best flushed into the sewers.

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geon wrote: Star Trek has always looked at current social issues in its episodes. With the covid 19 pandemic
raging across the world, Star Trek writers could easily have developed a story line about a virulent space plague sweeping across the galaxy and afflicting all the major empires. How this affected individuals and whole societies and how by eventually putting aside their differences (after many hurdles), previously antagonistic governments could have worked together to find a cure. And bring about a feeling of hope for the future. That is classic Star Trek.

Instead, what we now get is best flushed into the sewers.
The show was made prior to this crisis. I guess we may see something in season 3. Afaik only Mandalorian season 2 was already shot and in post production prior to C19.

Every now and then, dangerous viruses were a topic in Trek. Mostly, how they miraculously found a cure through their efforts. It'll be interesting to see how pop-culture with all its television shows and movies will be dealing and trying to cope with the C19-crisis in the distant and not so distant future.

Man, picard fighting those flowers at the end. That was something... not sure what those guys smoked when writing this but it probably wasn't of best quality...
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geon wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:07 pmHow did the Romulans acquire an intact cube? And where is the offensive and defensive technology they would have acquired from it? The adaptive shields and more powerful disruptors, torpedoes and ablative armour? Not to mention transwarp technology. Can you imagine uprated warbirds with all these new improvements? Where are the new designs replacing the Valdores and D’deridexes?
By no means defending the show as you guys have seen my rants in this thread haha.. however you're forgetting your TNG mate. While it wasn't seen it was said in 'Descent' that when Hugh returned to his cube everything went to hell and they lost their link to the collective.. fighting broke out over what to do, Lore showed up and a whole bunch of them escaped in that weird smaller Borg ship (known as an Adaptor in Armada).

In between destroying characters and ruining the TNG universe the Picard writers obviously took note of that little story thread and decided to expand on it and establish that around the time Hugh returned to the cube they passed near Romulan space and captured and assimilated a romulan ship and they infected the ship and borgs severing their connection. Romulans inherit a free borg ship lol. Was a cool idea.. pity about all their other ideas lol.
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