Combat Discussion

[Spocks-cuddly-tribble]

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It's an early test version. As told the outstanding Supremacy guys are still working on new stuff...

[the6the]

Outstanding they are!

quick question though. Will there be an option in the future, like there is in BOTF, to either go into tactical battle, auto resolve, or auto retreat. Or will it automatically take you to the tactical battle like it does now?

Really cool stuff guys! Keep up the awesome work!

[Misfire]

Was planning on adding a button to the combat window for auto resolve. The combat would then be resolved by the existing combat engine in Supremacy. The combat results would be a little different (turn based damage vs tick/frame based damage), but I don't see that as an issue as long as it's balanced to some degree.

[Misfire]

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It's an early test version. As told the outstanding Supremacy guys are still working on new stuff...

Yea there is still a lot to be done. The current options for controlling the camera are pretty limited, more needs to be done.

[Iceman]

I have got desired but unexpected result from the final combat against the Borg at Unimatrix 01.
Did anything change it the combat resolution? I had 82 ships, all decloaked, but too lose only one? The combat lasted 2 turns.

This is due to a conjugation of factors, including something that has not been implemented yet in the non-CE version of the game, which is all ships firing their torpedoes at the start of the round. Since ships fire according to their initiative, your (massive amount of) ships destroyed the Borg's (which are slow) before they could fire - so even taking 16 or so ships to down a Cube doesn't help the Borg.

The (auto) combat engine needs to be improved in a few areas. Made some changes yesterday, but mostly to combat logs and processing time.

[geordie]

so tactics against torpedoes should be available

Btw - is a new CE patch expected? I was plying like 230 turns of my first CE game, without any problems, but I am stuck by the error I have reported.

[Iceman]

so tactics against torpedoes should be available

Auto combat is very limited in what you can do; unless we implement Evade and whatnot with buttons.
I've been mulling over how to improve combat over the past few days, but I've been really busy at work, so there's not really much done yet. It's going to be a substantial amount of work.
I also want to take a look at AI shipbuilding again, they tend to overbuild some classes under certain circumstances.

Btw - is a new CE patch expected? I was plying like 230 turns of my first CE game, without any problems, but I am stuck by the error I have reported.

The error only triggers when you scrap or upgrade a station. Misfire has already fixed it some time ago, but he must be busy right now. I'll give him a nudge.

[geordie]

Thanks.
In my case it must be a station of other race, Like minor race station being destroyed, so I cannot do anything.

[Iceman]

Fix uploaded.
I also uploaded a new full build, with this fix already included.

[geordie]

I tried to test the Unity engine in bigger fights. Apart from some initial encounters, like 1 to 1 ship, I managed to test 9 destroyers against the Diamond, 40+ fleet against the Diamond and 70+ ships against the basic Borg armada. The test was successful, no problems, no errors. The only obstacle was that no Borg ship was destroyed, they always managed to escape. The Borg probe even has escaped from an encounter with my one scout mark 3.

[geordie]

I got first (but repeatable) hang in combat: my outpost versus cloaked scout.

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btw - the background in combat is too dark sometimes

[Iceman]

I got first (but repeatable) hang in combat: my outpost versus cloaked scout.

Do you know if this battle was a ship vs a station? The logs show only one ship (Romulan) and nothing else. A battle between a single station and other ships will cause an error since stations don't exist in the combat engine yet.