Battling cloaked Klingon Ships @ tech 8...

[mmobley1]

Hi. I'm back from an 8 year hiatus (wow, it's been that long) and decided to fire up the latest and greatest and run a large UDM at mid tech. Been doing well and trying to keep my fleets built up as I progress - even got a nice bit of intel and economics going and a nice sized empire. I'm playing Fed.

One problem - the Klingons decided to play hardball (no surprise) only now they are spamming BoPs (30+) and Battle cruiser 2s and keeping them cloaked. This is tearing my fleets to shreds. I'm actually slightly more advanced but I have no idea how to counter this. Any ideas?

My fleets are made up of Destroyer 3s, Medium Cruisers, and Heavy Explorers. I JUST got Heavy Cruisers and Light Escorts.

I know the Heavy Escort and Dreadnought are the ships to get, but I'm not there yet.

Let me know please.

[RSE_Chris]

Your Destroyer 3s should have a higher hull rating that the BoPs. Group Ram the BoPs with your destroyers and then finish off the BC2s with strafe/assault. If you're heavily outnumberd then build more, regroup, and use the above tactic.

[Deimos]

Can you imagine if they did this tactic in the battles seen in DS9? lol.
Ships ramming each other all over the place.

[slickrcbd]

The Jem'Hadar did use ramming.
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[Deimos]

Yea I remember the Jem Hadar ramming the Odyssey and the Klingon ships.

[slickrcbd]

I do too, but I couldn't find any clips of them ramming Klingons in 5 minutes of searching. Only the Odyssey.

[Final Run]

Old thread but I’m equally curious about this as far as vanilla is concerned. This match-up is probably one of the hardest for T5 Federation. Realistically Klingons should stomp Feds 9 out of 10 games if starting populations are not too different.


The bet I think is to play keep away and hopefully find Ullians or Ktatians to member asap to help with sabotaging Klingons every turn. If battle is unavoidable I guess ramming and Flyby are probably best options to get-in as close as possible.

[CaptainEd]

My strategy is to prevent AI from building big fleets in the first place. This means they must constantly be harassed and home system raided. First priority is destruction of outposts followed by any ships in their space. Outposts need to be built to extend ship range. Any spotted ship needs to be destroyed. Let them declare war. Once home system is reachable it should be raided with destroyers.

If enemy big fleet already exists then use a strong fleet of command ships (+ 1 scout to give AI something to fire on, set to evade) - Command Cruiser II and Heavy Cruiser and invade their home system.