(Download) ST:BotF Galaxies MOD v0.4.0

[Tethys]

nice generation, does it do it consistently?

but please turn those bonuses off can't even see where klingons or romulans are, even when I zoom in.

Lol @ bonuses yeah pretty much every system

Consistency is its own beast, but I think I am starting to understand finally how the values work, after 15 years, I just need more time

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[Tethys]

This one has a very nice spiraling

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this one not so much, looks more like a beauty shot of a galaxy rather than dorsal view ie. kinda sideways?

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[Tethys]

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[Tethys]

second and third pics same values

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[Tethys]

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[Tethys]

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[Tethys]

I really like this one, but feels like the core needs to be more dense

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[thunderchero]

that is almost 20 images of the same thing yes it is generating good

[Tethys]

these are all different settings, documenting them for future reference. Is that ok or do you want me to stop? Here's the last 2 and netting 25-30 minors so I think I will stick with these numbers for now

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[thunderchero]

with that many system you should be getting 30 every time with the right code.
as for documenting your value would only be good if other variables are exact same and not many would use your size map due to turn lag.

[Tethys]

The main contributing factor to turn lag is the AI and its constant changing of task assignments, the scanning of every sector available within a ship's range, and yes.. map size larger makes it worse. But I have been able to cut down significantly the turn times from earlier versions of GALM to something a bit more manageable by simply reducing the ships ranges across the board. High turn games will always suffer from turn lag until AI tasks can be cleaned up a little to get rid of the stuff that's causing the slowdowns. I have had very large map games go for a while (almost 100 turns) without much slowdown, but as soon as 2 majors meet it starts to slow down exponentially.

your value would only be good if other variables are exact same

The only values that matter for spiral that I have seen are:
Major
Minor
Arm Width

Inner Arc
Middle Arc
Outer Arc

Axes: These appear to calculate the galaxy in a spiralized shape (duhhh) but what I mean by that is by increasing the values it actually grows the galaxy - but not as one would expect - the galaxy rotates as it is grown. Both values have great effect on minor race count. Too low numbers and you have too few minors. Too high numbers and your galaxy is elliptical not spiral. Having one higher and one lower seems to have the nicest effect with regards to shape. The first value seems to have a better effect on minor race count (higher) but also causes a larger galaxy that sometimes "hangs off" the screen.

Arm width does just that, adjust the width of all arms.

Arm arc multipliers: Also rotate as they are adjusted. Inner arc seems to not matter, Ive set it to 0 without much of an effect on the galaxy shape. As the middle and outer arcs are increased they also seem to rotate in a counter clockwise direction > higher numbers spread the arms out from the core more but also have rotational effect.

[thunderchero]

do you have the patch from MUM 30 minors on many?
as long as you have enough system you will get 30 minors on many every time.
it is in latest MUM patch folder in installer

[Tethys]

do you have the patch from MUM 30 minors on many?
as long as you have enough system you will get 30 minors on many every time.
it is in latest MUM patch folder in installer

Is it any different from this patch?

Code: Select all

NAME: move 8 always 30 minors on many
AUTHOR: thunderchero
DESC: This patch always 30 minors on many
DESC: patch file name: move 8 always_30_minors_on_many.patch
URL: https://www.armadafleetcommand.com/onscreen/botf/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3593#p48047
TAG: fix

# >>  = vanilla/original value

# <<  = new value

>> 0x000b103a 33
>> 0x000b104a dc 1d 68 f8 57 00
>> 0x000b1050 df e0 9e 73 19 8b 03 89 fa 8b 5c 24 3e
>> 0x000b105e 34 01 c1 fb 10 89 f0 e8 36 23 00 00 85 c0 75 0d 8b 54 24 04 83 c1 04 39 d1 7c 82 eb 92 89 f8 e8 3e 02 00 00 89 74 24 14 89 c2 69 c6 28 03 00 00 8b 1d c8 36 5a 00 66 8b 75 00 01 d8 31 db 46 66 89 d3 66 89 75 00 8b 74 24 14
>> 0x000b10aa 50 44 66 89 34 5d 60 23 5b 00
>> 0x000b10b5 83 fa 05 73 1b c6 40 30 00 88 50 4c 8b 54 24 04 83 c1 04 39 d1 0f 8c 2b ff ff ff e9 38 ff ff ff c6 40 30 05 c6 40 4c 23 8b 54 24 04 83 c1 04 39 d1 0f 8c 0f ff ff ff e9 1c ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>> 0x0017d668 9a 99 99 99 99 99 c9 3f

<< 0x000b103a 3b
<< 0x000b104a df 05 bc 36 5a 00
<< 0x000b1050 de c9 dc 1d 68 f8 57 00 df e0 9e 73 19
<< 0x000b105e 03 89 fa 8b 5c 24 3e 8b 34 01 c1 fb 10 89 f0 e8 2e 23 00 00 85 c0 75 0d 8b 54 24 04 83 c1 04 39 d1 7c 8a eb 8a 89 f8 e8 36 02 00 00 89 74 24 14 89 c2 69 c6 28 03 00 00 8b 1d c8 36 5a 00 66 8b 75 00 01 d8 31 db 46 66 89 d3
<< 0x000b10aa 75 00 8b 74 24 14 66 89 50 44
<< 0x000b10b5 89 34 5d 60 23 5b 00 66 83 fa 05 73 1b c6 40 30 00 88 50 4c 8b 54 24 04 83 c1 04 39 d1 0f 8c 23 ff ff ff e9 30 ff ff ff c6 40 30 05 c6 40 4c 23 8b 54 24 04 83 c1 04 39 d1 0f 8c 07 ff ff ff e9 14 ff ff ff
<< 0x0017d668 00 00 00 00 00 00 3e 40

I have applied it now, the last value was not vanilla in my install. I'm getting consistently between 28-30 minors with patch. Minors appear to cluster in the center with some more pronounced in the left side on irregular galaxy. Have not tested medium and small yet.

[thunderchero]

yes and no that is patch without values and minor race density fix minors shift right, (but that is map size dependent).

But I am not sure if UE set both max table and min table
subs 004B22A0 and 004B2350
I set both the same and fix shared values same as UE does
if you want 15(few),25 (some),30 (many)
just replace code area (full sub-section) with vanilla code and patch should read no conflicts
more than likely you are reading conflicts due to you already changed minors in UE

[Tethys]

Yes, the value for minor race density was altered. It was the only conflict for this patch. Some reason I had 0.08 when it should be 0.2 I changed it back to 0.2 and noticed the minors increased in density. I then applied the patch to see if anything changes but everything seemed normal. That explains why the minors are kinda off a little.